We have really great chances ahead to make significant moves. Zambia and 2 against Malaysia. If we manage to draw Zambia and beat Malaysia on 2 occasions = INSANE JUMP!!
we wont see the jump as expected because the number of matches played by india in last 12 months is high and most of them lossess.
some more ranking calculations with different scenarios
Some more sobering predictions on how we can (more like, cannot) come up the ranks in the next three months, when 7 matches are on schedule (may be 9, if we reach SAF final at Delhi)
As of now, we play 2 Malaysia matches before the November rankings. If we win both against #151 Malaysia, our points will move from 115 to 126. We will move up a spot or two from #160, may be. Just useless games against malaysia.
If we win every game (including against #80 Zambia) and 5 matches at SAF cup in Delhi to take the title, we will go to about 158 points (about rank ~149). Lose to Zambia, and it will be 142 pts (~#153).
If we win every match including Malaysia and #49 South Africa (Jan 7th), we will have 187 points (rank ~ #138) in the Jan 2012 rankings. Lose to Zambia and RSA, and it will be 146 pts (about ~ #151). Win against Zambia and lose to RSA, 165 pts (about #146).
If we lose any matches against the "lowlies" - Malaysia and SAF opponents - reduce about 6 to 8 pts per loss and one or two spots lower in rankings.
The wins against nobody would count much, because we are playing way too many matches and a lot of them against below 140 teams. No use. We would have played 29 matches in 17 months as of this coming January, after playing just 5 over the previous 18 months. Can never move up this way, even if we win matches. When you see that even winning 9 matches in a row now, including upsets of #80 and #49 can only move you up from #160 by about 20+ spots, you know that this is just not working. Shouldn't have scheduled Malaysia now. Should not even have thought of playing Pakistan in UK, like I said then (though luckily that didn't come through). If we are doing Nehru Cup next year, it should be done ONLY with teams in top-125 (or don't do it at all). We should not play anybody below #140, period - unless we think we can only beat such teams. Things like SAF cup only keeps us where we always stay. Around 150, because others in the group are around there. Just kill that whole idea of SAF cup (but we can't, I guess).
FIFA ranking system sucks because they have no limits on the match divisor. There needs to be a scheme to pick the best wins and best losses or something. But nobody understand the damn thing well enough to challenge FIFA either. So this canard just keeps going.
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some more ranking calculations with different scenarios
Some more sobering predictions on how we can (more like, cannot) come up the ranks in the next three months, when 7 matches are on schedule (may be 9, if we reach SAF final at Delhi)
As of now, we play 2 Malaysia matches before the November rankings. If we win both against #151 Malaysia, our points will move from 115 to 126. We will move up a spot or two from #160, may be. Just useless games against malaysia.
If we win every game (including against #80 Zambia) and 5 matches at SAF cup in Delhi to take the title, we will go to about 158 points (about rank ~149). Lose to Zambia, and it will be 142 pts (~#153).
If we win every match including Malaysia and #49 South Africa (Jan 7th), we will have 187 points (rank ~ #138) in the Jan 2012 rankings. Lose to Zambia and RSA, and it will be 146 pts (about ~ #151). Win against Zambia and lose to RSA, 165 pts (about #146).
If we lose any matches against the "lowlies" - Malaysia and SAF opponents - reduce about 6 to 8 pts per loss and one or two spots lower in rankings.
The wins against nobody would count much, because we are playing way too many matches and a lot of them against below 140 teams. No use. We would have played 29 matches in 17 months as of this coming January, after playing just 5 over the previous 18 months. Can never move up this way, even if we win matches. When you see that even winning 9 matches in a row now, including upsets of #80 and #49 can only move you up from #160 by about 20+ spots, you know that this is just not working. Shouldn't have scheduled Malaysia now. Should not even have thought of playing Pakistan in UK, like I said then (though luckily that didn't come through). If we are doing Nehru Cup next year, it should be done ONLY with teams in top-125 (or don't do it at all). We should not play anybody below #140, period - unless we think we can only beat such teams. Things like SAF cup only keeps us where we always stay. Around 150, because others in the group are around there. Just kill that whole idea of SAF cup (but we can't, I guess).
FIFA ranking system sucks because they have no limits on the match divisor. There needs to be a scheme to pick the best wins and best losses or something. But nobody understand the damn thing well enough to challenge FIFA either. So this canard just keeps going.
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a look at the current status of indian situation in fifa rating....given current scene...the present year holds the worst record and the record which is gonna get erased soon is the one which possess max avg points.....so what can we expect now...a further drop due to this???
Even winning the next match is not going to take us any far. <!-- s:handgestures-thumbdown: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/handgestures/thumbdown.gif" alt=":handgestures-thumbdown:" title="Thumb Down" /><!-- s:handgestures-thumbdown: -->
Even winning the next match is not going to take us any far. <!-- s:handgestures-thumbdown: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/handgestures/thumbdown.gif" alt=":handgestures-thumbdown:" title="Thumb Down" /><!-- s:handgestures-thumbdown: -->
winning would mean we wont go further down...that is the most important thing currently
Did few calculations and good news is that India will move out of 160's,not a big jump but 2-3 spots <!-- s:dance: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa/dance.gif" alt=":dance:" title="Dance" /><!-- s:dance: --> <!-- s:clap: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa/clap.gif" alt=":clap:" title="Clap" /><!-- s:clap: -->
Did few calculations and good news is that India will move out of 160's,not a big jump but 2-3 spots <!-- s:dance: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa/dance.gif" alt=":dance:" title="Dance" /><!-- s:dance: --> <!-- s:clap: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa/clap.gif" alt=":clap:" title="Clap" /><!-- s:clap: -->
our current points are 115...which would be increased to 119.....i dont know about the jump which we would be getting though....good news that we get a few good points here..... <!-- s:clap: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa/clap.gif" alt=":clap:" title="Clap" /><!-- s:clap: -->
malayasia subbed six of their players. Will the points clount?
fifa site is showing the result currently...lets hope it is considered ....we dont want another qatar match... <!-- s:pray: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa/pray.gif" alt=":pray:" title="Pray" /><!-- s:pray: -->
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Some more sobering predictions on how we can (more like, cannot) come up the ranks in the next three months, when 7 matches are on schedule (may be 9, if we reach SAF final at Delhi)
As of now, we play 2 Malaysia matches before the November rankings. If we win both against #151 Malaysia, our points will move from 115 to 126. We will move up a spot or two from #160, may be. Just useless games against malaysia.
If we win every game (including against #80 Zambia) and 5 matches at SAF cup in Delhi to take the title, we will go to about 158 points (about rank ~149). Lose to Zambia, and it will be 142 pts (~#153).
If we win every match including Malaysia and #49 South Africa (Jan 7th), we will have 187 points (rank ~ #138) in the Jan 2012 rankings. Lose to Zambia and RSA, and it will be 146 pts (about ~ #151). Win against Zambia and lose to RSA, 165 pts (about #146).
If we lose any matches against the "lowlies" - Malaysia and SAF opponents - reduce about 6 to 8 pts per loss and one or two spots lower in rankings.
The wins against nobody would count much, because we are playing way too many matches and a lot of them against below 140 teams. No use. We would have played 29 matches in 17 months as of this coming January, after playing just 5 over the previous 18 months. Can never move up this way, even if we win matches. When you see that even winning 9 matches in a row now, including upsets of #80 and #49 can only move you up from #160 by about 20+ spots, you know that this is just not working. Shouldn't have scheduled Malaysia now. Should not even have thought of playing Pakistan in UK, like I said then (though luckily that didn't come through). If we are doing Nehru Cup next year, it should be done ONLY with teams in top-125 (or don't do it at all). We should not play anybody below #140, period - unless we think we can only beat such teams. Things like SAF cup only keeps us where we always stay. Around 150, because others in the group are around there. Just kill that whole idea of SAF cup (but we can't, I guess).
FIFA ranking system sucks because they have no limits on the match divisor. There needs to be a scheme to pick the best wins and best losses or something. But nobody understand the damn thing well enough to challenge FIFA either. So this canard just keeps going.
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