my rating for afc criteria to our i-league:-
1. Organisation -> yes(aiff is finely operating with some good stability in top position)
2. Technical Standard ->yes( the coaching and other technical matters are decent)
3. Attendance -> no(the league champion team dont attract housefull even for 1 match..that says it all)
4. Governance/ Soundness ->no(the activity of club and federation are just fine can be amused with )
5. Marketing & Promotion->yes(there has been good attempt this time to get everyone catch the eye at least for tv viewers)
6. Business Scale ->no(our league is an all input no output league)
7. Game Operation->no(may be aiff is doing better work in scheduling but clubs are not operating the game in proper way)
8. Media ->no(i guess i dont need to explain reason)
9. Stadia ->yes(our stadium manages to fulfill basic criteria)
10. Clubs ->no(we still have psu clubs)
11. Infrastructure->yes(we got some basic facilities for the clubs)
with just 5 out of 11.......not even 50%...so their decision of scraping is perfectly correct as far as i concern.....
lets hope aiff take it seriously and do work which could help them increase the quality of the game rapidly.....
the problem is that the AIFF is coward and cannot take strong measures all of a sudden. they fear that mb n eb might make their own breakaway league. but probably thats the way it works in India. we should accept it. we cannot disband all the clubs all at once. History n legacy matters to us
my rating for afc criteria to our i-league:-
with just 5 out of 11.......not even 50%...so their decision of scraping is perfectly correct as far as i concern.....
lets hope aiff take it seriously and do work which could help them increase the quality of the game rapidly.....
Even Indonesia managed only 5/11. I-league condition is poorer than u think it is
Indonesia will not be allowed to get an ACL direct slot since they failed to meet
many items of AFC Champions League Criteria; however, it will be given one ACL
play-off slot to support the development of football in Indonesia.
May be they think IDN showing more promises than AIFF
1) Clubs in the top division: 14 (The ACL requirement is 12 clubs so we pass)
2) Number of league matches for each team: 26 (The ACL requirement is 33 so we are way off; either we lose 2 teams or we add 4 teams.
3) Duration of season (includes cups): 9 months (We are one month off the requirement of 10 months)
4) Duration of only league: 8 months (We are on target of the 8 month requirement)
5) Number of international refs: Unknown (We need 6 yet we have unknown but I am guessing we don't have anything)
6) Number of international assistant refs: Unknown (Same as #5 but instead of 6 we need 8)
7) League has referee education program: NO (We need one)
8) We have a ref assessor: We have a few but only for major matches (We need many more)
9) We have regulations: Yes (We check out)
10) We have regulations for transfers: Yes (We check out)
11) We have a disciplinary code: No (We need one)
12) Promotion/Relegation: Yes (We check out)
So far we past half of the regulations.
13) Average Ticket Attendance: Some teams do free of charge (We can not do free of charge so we don't pass this)
14) Average attendance per match: Unknown (Must be over 5000 which we are far from)
15) Attendance is announced for every game in accurate form [must be announced as something like 12,247 not 12,000, must be at least 80% accurate] (We absolutely don't follow this)
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16) No government inappropriateness: OH HELL YA! (Yes)
17) Fixed Games: None that we know of (None, I will count that we follow this)
18) League Federation works with league: Yes (Yes)
19) We have a marketing structure: None at this moment, but it is building (We need one)
At this moment we follow 47% of the regulations for the 2012 AFC Champions League. I am guessing we need 66%.
20) CEO of league must be a full time job: They say it is (Must be)
21) We have a balance sheet: I am guessing we do (WE MUST)
22) We must have media rights, sponsorship, and merchandising (WE HAVE NONE!!!!)
23) Match commissioner at each match: YES (We have one)
24) Circulations at matches: YES (We do this)
25) Security Officier: YES we do, mind you they suck sometimes (We do this)
26) We have security guidelines: YES but again bad ones (We do this)
27) We have hospitality for VIPs and sponsors: NO (I am looking at you Chirag Kerala)
28) We have a fan service at matches: NO (Sure Sporting, Bengal, Bagan, Pune but what about everyone else)
29) We have a media officer: NO
30) We have a media room: NO (We need all stadiums to have one... Chirag Kerala looking at you again)
31) We have room for TV Broadcasting: NO (Same as #30)
32) Pre/Post match conferences: NO (Same as #30)
33) Mixed zone at every match (Section for away fans etc.): No
34) Match report given to media: Yes, but still shit most of the time (Mandatory)
35) League provides info to fans: Yes, in a shit way still
36) Matches broadcasted: Around 80 matches out of 182 (We need MINIMUM 50% of matches broadcasted so no)
37) We are covered on a monthly footy magazine: YES (90 minutes bitches)
38) We are covered on newspapers: YES (Times of India etc)
39) A-Class stadiums with minimum 5,000 capacity: 3 (We need one more)
Criteria for A-Class Stadiums btw are
1) Quality Turf
2) Field Lights
3) Roofs over part of stadium
4) Steady power supply
5) Leading wires for broadcasting
6) Dressing rooms for players and referees
7) Doping control room
8) medical room
9) security room
10) VIP seating area
11) facilities for press
12) working space for TV
13) food and merchandise vendors
14) Must be located at most 200 kilometers from closest international airport.
Stadiums which pass in I-League: Cooperage (soon), Kaloor, Balewadi (NO! Salt Lake still has many problems)
40) Number of players under pro contract per team: I say around 15-20 (Requirement is 20 on ALL TEAMS so NO!)
41) All the clubs have the revenue such as 1) gate receipts, 2) media rights, 3) sponsorship, 4) merchandising, 5) transfer fee income and 6) revenue distributed from the league: No, only a few clubs (We need all of them)
42) All clubs a commercial entity: Named after states/cities but still ran by companies which we don't really (We still need to do this)
43) No overdue payments: NO (I bet you we do with some clubs)
44) No cross-ownership: There are still a few clubs who do this so No
45) The directors and employees of one club are not employed by any other clubs nor do they possess the shares of any other clubs, either: YES
46) Youth Clubs: No
47) All coaches A-Licensed: No (HAL SC Coach)
48) All clubs have competent management staff who are in charge of the tasks such as competition, marketing, media and finance: No
49) 3,000 seater stadiums: YES
50) Training grounds guaranteed: NO
51) All clubs conduct activities contributing to the local community of the hometowns: NO
52) All the clubs can prove the support from a local government in the following areas; Use of home stadium, Use of training site, Improvement of access to the stadium for the fans: NO
53) Easy Visa Steps: NO
54) Simplified airport procedures, easy immigration / customs: YES
55) local transportation: YES
56) Team Hotels: 3-4 starts (needs to be 5 star hotels for AFC Champions League approved leagues)
So overall we follow 26 out of 56 requirements for the 2012 AFC Champions League. That is 46% of requirements. No wonder we lost out. And these regulations are not hard to follow.
from the analysis by arsenalfan, it is clear that if the clubs fulfill the criteria of afc champions league, then we could easily achieve the target soon...
lets hope indian clubs wake up soon...
from the analysis by arsenalfan, it is clear that if the clubs fulfill the criteria of afc champions league, then we could easily achieve the target soon...
lets hope indian clubs wake up soon...
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Also if you guys look at mine or also read the url again you would see that there were a lot of factors I said we fulfilled but in a shit way. Like merchandise some clubs do (Pune FC) but others don't. (No East Bengal and Mohun Bagan fans, selling your jerseys on the streets don't count, I mean actually selling them at the game) Also we need real youth clubs from every team and this is easy to fulfill because the criteria does not mention at what level we should be at with youth teams) Also we need out coaches to be A-Licensed.
We also need more teams in order to play more games (we need at least 33 matches per season)
There is many criteria in which we fail to follow and if you think that is it, do note that the I-League CLUBS need to follow the AFC Criteria which we had not yet.
Also a problem which will stay forever is the full-time commercial entity. So get ready for years of Dempo, Salgaocar, HAL, Air India and what not.
the point where you mention that there is no Pre/Post-Match conference is mot true. This time AIFF has made it mandatory for all clubs to do it. Anyway, it is a great work done by you. AIFF could very well use this as a checklist
the point where you mention that there is no Pre/Post-Match conference is mot true. This time AIFF has made it mandatory for all clubs to do it. Anyway, it is a great work done by you. AIFF could very well use this as a checklist
By pre and post match I mean a normal professional. One that takes place in a room with the background have the logo of I-League and sponsors. Like that have for Pune FC and European matches. Instead when I see some of the pre and post matches of other teams most of them do them outside with a crowd and what not which I don't mind but be professional.
Comments
1. Organisation -> yes(aiff is finely operating with some good stability in top position)
2. Technical Standard ->yes( the coaching and other technical matters are decent)
3. Attendance -> no(the league champion team dont attract housefull even for 1 match..that says it all)
4. Governance/ Soundness ->no(the activity of club and federation are just fine can be amused with )
5. Marketing & Promotion->yes(there has been good attempt this time to get everyone catch the eye at least for tv viewers)
6. Business Scale ->no(our league is an all input no output league)
7. Game Operation->no(may be aiff is doing better work in scheduling but clubs are not operating the game in proper way)
8. Media ->no(i guess i dont need to explain reason)
9. Stadia ->yes(our stadium manages to fulfill basic criteria)
10. Clubs ->no(we still have psu clubs)
11. Infrastructure->yes(we got some basic facilities for the clubs)
with just 5 out of 11.......not even 50%...so their decision of scraping is perfectly correct as far as i concern.....
lets hope aiff take it seriously and do work which could help them increase the quality of the game rapidly.....
Even Indonesia managed only 5/11. I-league condition is poorer than u think it is
May be they think IDN showing more promises than AIFF
1) Clubs in the top division: 14 (The ACL requirement is 12 clubs so we pass)
2) Number of league matches for each team: 26 (The ACL requirement is 33 so we are way off; either we lose 2 teams or we add 4 teams.
3) Duration of season (includes cups): 9 months (We are one month off the requirement of 10 months)
4) Duration of only league: 8 months (We are on target of the 8 month requirement)
5) Number of international refs: Unknown (We need 6 yet we have unknown but I am guessing we don't have anything)
6) Number of international assistant refs: Unknown (Same as #5 but instead of 6 we need 8)
7) League has referee education program: NO (We need one)
8) We have a ref assessor: We have a few but only for major matches (We need many more)
9) We have regulations: Yes (We check out)
10) We have regulations for transfers: Yes (We check out)
11) We have a disciplinary code: No (We need one)
12) Promotion/Relegation: Yes (We check out)
So far we past half of the regulations.
13) Average Ticket Attendance: Some teams do free of charge (We can not do free of charge so we don't pass this)
14) Average attendance per match: Unknown (Must be over 5000 which we are far from)
15) Attendance is announced for every game in accurate form [must be announced as something like 12,247 not 12,000, must be at least 80% accurate] (We absolutely don't follow this)
We so far only follow 40% of the regulations and to make it better don't follow any of the attendance regulations. <!-- s:angry-screaming: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/angry/screaming.gif" alt=":angry-screaming:" title="Screaming" /><!-- s:angry-screaming: -->
16) No government inappropriateness: OH HELL YA! (Yes)
17) Fixed Games: None that we know of (None, I will count that we follow this)
18) League Federation works with league: Yes (Yes)
19) We have a marketing structure: None at this moment, but it is building (We need one)
At this moment we follow 47% of the regulations for the 2012 AFC Champions League. I am guessing we need 66%.
20) CEO of league must be a full time job: They say it is (Must be)
21) We have a balance sheet: I am guessing we do (WE MUST)
22) We must have media rights, sponsorship, and merchandising (WE HAVE NONE!!!!)
23) Match commissioner at each match: YES (We have one)
24) Circulations at matches: YES (We do this)
25) Security Officier: YES we do, mind you they suck sometimes (We do this)
26) We have security guidelines: YES but again bad ones (We do this)
27) We have hospitality for VIPs and sponsors: NO (I am looking at you Chirag Kerala)
28) We have a fan service at matches: NO (Sure Sporting, Bengal, Bagan, Pune but what about everyone else)
29) We have a media officer: NO
30) We have a media room: NO (We need all stadiums to have one... Chirag Kerala looking at you again)
31) We have room for TV Broadcasting: NO (Same as #30)
32) Pre/Post match conferences: NO (Same as #30)
33) Mixed zone at every match (Section for away fans etc.): No
34) Match report given to media: Yes, but still shit most of the time (Mandatory)
35) League provides info to fans: Yes, in a shit way still
36) Matches broadcasted: Around 80 matches out of 182 (We need MINIMUM 50% of matches broadcasted so no)
37) We are covered on a monthly footy magazine: YES (90 minutes bitches)
38) We are covered on newspapers: YES (Times of India etc)
39) A-Class stadiums with minimum 5,000 capacity: 3 (We need one more)
Criteria for A-Class Stadiums btw are
1) Quality Turf
2) Field Lights
3) Roofs over part of stadium
4) Steady power supply
5) Leading wires for broadcasting
6) Dressing rooms for players and referees
7) Doping control room
8) medical room
9) security room
10) VIP seating area
11) facilities for press
12) working space for TV
13) food and merchandise vendors
14) Must be located at most 200 kilometers from closest international airport.
Stadiums which pass in I-League: Cooperage (soon), Kaloor, Balewadi (NO! Salt Lake still has many problems)
40) Number of players under pro contract per team: I say around 15-20 (Requirement is 20 on ALL TEAMS so NO!)
41) All the clubs have the revenue such as 1) gate receipts, 2) media rights, 3) sponsorship, 4) merchandising, 5) transfer fee income and 6) revenue distributed from the league: No, only a few clubs (We need all of them)
42) All clubs a commercial entity: Named after states/cities but still ran by companies which we don't really (We still need to do this)
43) No overdue payments: NO (I bet you we do with some clubs)
44) No cross-ownership: There are still a few clubs who do this so No
45) The directors and employees of one club are not employed by any other clubs nor do they possess the shares of any other clubs, either: YES
46) Youth Clubs: No
47) All coaches A-Licensed: No (HAL SC Coach)
48) All clubs have competent management staff who are in charge of the tasks such as competition, marketing, media and finance: No
49) 3,000 seater stadiums: YES
50) Training grounds guaranteed: NO
51) All clubs conduct activities contributing to the local community of the hometowns: NO
52) All the clubs can prove the support from a local government in the following areas; Use of home stadium, Use of training site, Improvement of access to the stadium for the fans: NO
53) Easy Visa Steps: NO
54) Simplified airport procedures, easy immigration / customs: YES
55) local transportation: YES
56) Team Hotels: 3-4 starts (needs to be 5 star hotels for AFC Champions League approved leagues)
So overall we follow 26 out of 56 requirements for the 2012 AFC Champions League. That is 46% of requirements. No wonder we lost out. And these regulations are not hard to follow.
Here is the complete list btw...
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lets hope indian clubs wake up soon...
We also need more teams in order to play more games (we need at least 33 matches per season)
There is many criteria in which we fail to follow and if you think that is it, do note that the I-League CLUBS need to follow the AFC Criteria which we had not yet.
Also a problem which will stay forever is the full-time commercial entity. So get ready for years of Dempo, Salgaocar, HAL, Air India and what not.
By pre and post match I mean a normal professional. One that takes place in a room with the background have the logo of I-League and sponsors. Like that have for Pune FC and European matches. Instead when I see some of the pre and post matches of other teams most of them do them outside with a crowd and what not which I don't mind but be professional.