SANTOSH TROPHY 2012

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  • reddevil87reddevil87 1858 Points
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    rudra wrote:
    arsenalfan wrote:
    rudra wrote:
    Looks like Nagaland Premier League has to improve a lot.</font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 12px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">‎6th Santosh Trophy Pre Quarter Final Round Cluster 5: [M1]: Karnataka 5 (Gopi-3, Ngurneilal Hmar, Pandian) Vs Nagaland 0</span>
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    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">Considering it is a first year tournament where many of the players have never played before, only played 8 games this season and all are younger than every team... ya not a surprise when you think about it.</div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">yes but that sud stop the comments about I league clubs signing the NPL guys.....These Karnataka team also includes players who play in shitty local league, have not played in this season as the Bangalore super division has had only 1 match so far...</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">This sud be a reality check for NPL</div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">We are missing the importance of having a strong local league. Most of previous years Nagaland players came from government teams like Nagaland Police, etc. and they didnt have a regular league games. But in case of Karnataka, most of players are from lower leagues, as much shitty they are but they play regularly, not like Nagaland guys. </font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Coming to NPL case, NPL is good start for sure though it needs to grow further, but our expectation about it is high only because we think they are professional league, but the fact that having a website and merchandise does not make them good on field. This is first year, people will loose interest in NPL if they dont perform good on field too. </font></div>
  • Yes and no. There are some great 15-20 year olds like that Haokip kid who is 19 and leading scorer. Long-term if an I-League club gets them then that kid can develop into I-League standard.
  • reddevil87 wrote:
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    rudra wrote:
    arsenalfan wrote:
    rudra wrote:
    Looks like Nagaland Premier League has to improve a lot.</font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 12px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">‎6th Santosh Trophy Pre Quarter Final Round Cluster 5: [M1]: Karnataka 5 (Gopi-3, Ngurneilal Hmar, Pandian) Vs Nagaland 0</span>
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    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">Considering it is a first year tournament where many of the players have never played before, only played 8 games this season and all are younger than every team... ya not a surprise when you think about it.</div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2" style="font-weight: normal; ">

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">yes but that sud stop the comments about I league clubs signing the NPL guys.....These Karnataka team also includes players who play in shitty local league, have not played in this season as the Bangalore super division has had only 1 match so far...</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">This sud be a reality check for NPL</div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2" style="font-weight: normal; ">

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">We are missing the importance of having a strong local league. Most of previous years Nagaland players came from government teams like Nagaland Police, etc. and they didnt have a regular league games. But in case of Karnataka, most of players are from lower leagues, as much shitty they are but they play regularly, not like Nagaland guys. </font></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Coming to NPL case, NPL is good start for sure though it needs to grow further, but our expectation about it is high only because we think they are professional league, <span style="background-color: rgb(102, 255, 255);"><b>but the fact that having a website and merchandise does not make them good on field</b>.</span> This is first year, people will loose interest in NPL if they dont perform good on field too. </font></div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>Your still not getting it.</div>
  • reddevil87reddevil87 1858 Points
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    arsenalfan wrote:
    reddevil87 wrote:
    </font><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; ">
    rudra wrote:
    arsenalfan wrote:
    rudra wrote:
    Looks like Nagaland Premier League has to improve a lot.</font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 12px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">‎6th Santosh Trophy Pre Quarter Final Round Cluster 5: [M1]: Karnataka 5 (Gopi-3, Ngurneilal Hmar, Pandian) Vs Nagaland 0</span>
    </div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; ">

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">Considering it is a first year tournament where many of the players have never played before, only played 8 games this season and all are younger than every team... ya not a surprise when you think about it.</div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; ">

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">yes but that sud stop the comments about I league clubs signing the NPL guys.....These Karnataka team also includes players who play in shitty local league, have not played in this season as the Bangalore super division has had only 1 match so far...</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">This sud be a reality check for NPL</div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; ">

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; "><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">We are missing the importance of having a strong local league. Most of previous years Nagaland players came from government teams like Nagaland Police, etc. and they didnt have a regular league games. But in case of Karnataka, most of players are from lower leagues, as much shitty they are but they play regularly, not like Nagaland guys. </font></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; "><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Coming to NPL case, NPL is good start for sure though it needs to grow further, but our expectation about it is high only because we think they are professional league, <span style="background-color: rgb(102, 255, 255);"><b>but the fact that having a website and merchandise does not make them good on field</b>.</span> This is first year, people will loose interest in NPL if they dont perform good on field too. </font></div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">Your still not getting it.</div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">It is not that I hate NPL, but what I meant is they need to perform continuously. CFL and GPL dont have websites and poor marketing but they have way better team and the same is reflected in game. NPL is baby with respect to these factors. They need to continuously perform to back these, people will forget if they dont perform on field too.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">For example : Mumbai FC and Pune FC. Both clubs are professional and miles ahead of other clubs in terms of modern day of club management, but still Pune has more followers than Mumbai. Why? The reason being continuous performance of Pune (coming withing top 5 for some seasons). People will follow initially all clubs or any new things sincerely for sometime but gradually interest decreases</font><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: small; "> </span><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: small; ">if they dont </span><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: small; ">continuously</span><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: small; "> perform.</span><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: small; "> Passionate fans will stay whatsoever but it is the casual fan that would wean away faster.</span></div>
  • Exactly the reason why I dont like Promotion/Relegation. Imagine if Mohun Bagan or East Bengal get relegated. They would die out so fast. Interest would go down and the league would lose a huge crowd-pulling team.<div><br></div><div>Anyway, the GPL does have a website that is linked with the GFA website, which is fine. Also the Goa and West Bengal teams are only good because of the teams in I-League. Same with the GPL and CFL. Imagine a Kolkata League without East Bengal, Mohun Bagan, Prayag United etc. or a GPL without Dempo, Salgaocar, Churchill and Sporting. They are no better than Nagaland at that point.</div><div><br></div><div>Also Mumbai does not have a following because of A) The crap stadium and B) The team being forced to play outside of Mumbai for the last 3 seasons.</div><div><br></div><div>Also these are new clubs, they will get support soon. Another reason why I hate pro/rel. We have newer, better clubs being created but the fan base will need to keep them alive and having that team be relegated wont help.</div>
  • rudrarudra 2958 Points
    OMG!!! I just mentioned that NPL is not upto standards, and we sudn't talk about them in I league at them moment...why make a mountain out of a molehill????
  • <font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">
    rudra wrote:
    OMG!!! I just mentioned that NPL is not upto standards, and we sudn't talk about them in I league at them moment...why make a mountain out of a molehill????

    </font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Well off the field they are arguably the best... on it though, not to much. Its good experience though.</font></div>
  • rudrarudra 2958 Points
    Thankfully football is still played on the field..thank god for that
  • rudra wrote:
    Thankfully football is still played on the field..thank god for that

    <br><div><br></div><div>Sadly football is more about business than about what happens on the field. </div>
  • Ths is jus da beginin of npl so hop they learn sumthn frm dis tournament n mak imprvements so that they cn able 2 perform wel in da days 2 cum n lift da futbl 2 a new heights!"practic makes a man perfect"
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