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  • ashindiaashindia 9264 Points
    4 new teams(Bengaluru United already have players) where are they going to get 100 players(assuming squad size of 25-30) from ??  
    karenesudhakar2050
  • RonnyRonny 10472 Points
    There will definitely be loan requests for all those warming benches..hopefully some young Indian strikers will benefit
  • souravindiasouravindia 3616 Points
    ashindia said:
    4 new teams(Bengaluru United already have players) where are they going to get 100 players(assuming squad size of 25-30) from ??  
    There are lots of players and who have potentials. If you have proper scouting then you can get enough good players either in bench, or playing State leagues  etc. More opportunities  means more players get to showcase, yes it might cause an initial dilution but I would still be happy. I dont think in this generation and prior there is much difference in quality , mote or less they are same. Only that some are lucky while others do not get a chance
    deepak dedhaindian_goonergoalkeepargaffertape
  • souravindiasouravindia 3616 Points
    The AIFF executive committee which met on Monday has decided to appoint Deloitte, a British multinational professional services company for the federation's internal audits. [HT] #IndianFootball
    Deb_Bansamindian_gooner
  • souravindiasouravindia 3616 Points
    First ever association probably who has the guts to involve a company for internal audits. I am loving the way this team is progressing
    gopiajeeshsamindian_goonerPassi
  • deepudeepu Somaliya1621 Points
    ashindia said:
    With that format Teams will play 14/12 games in first leg and then 4-5 play off games max. League would wrap up in 4 months. 

    Not really in favour of this format and sudden induction of so many new teams with very less options to choose players from. Quality will be degraded and gap between ISL and I-League will keep increasing

    AIFF again just trying to tick check boxes from their mission 2047 plan
    Master stroke by FSDL to destroy and finish off I league, FSDL firing from shoulders of AIFF 
    Why all this now?
    They hv even made it 2nd tier behind the private league isl 
  • samsam 16458 Points
    India Men's NT honors



    Let's see how many can say something about India's Pesta Sukan Cup win
    Passi
  • thebeautifulgamethebeautifulgame Durgapur,India29721 Points
    edited July 2023
    Some facts about the Pesta Sukan Cup triumph in 1971

    Indian football's forgotten triumph, right after an embarrassing defeat on Independence Day 1971

    A remarkable comeback by Indian football team that has been forgotten over the years

    Never before had Indian football experienced such a disastrous Independence Day as it did in 1971. As the nation celebrated its 25th Independence Day, Indian football hit its lowest ebb in Kuala Lumpur.

    In the concluding group league match of the 1971 Merdeka tournament on August 15, India, led by Chandreshwar Prasad, suffered a 9-1 defeat against Burma (now Myanmar) which shocked the entire the football fraternity. Till date, it is India’s worst ever loss against an Asian team.


    The Ministry of Education in Delhi (now HRD), took serious note of the drubbing and directed the All India Football Federation to immediately launch an enquiry.

    In Kolkata, in the governing body meeting of the state association (IFA), the members caused disruption and demanded an explanation from AIFF president M Dutta Ray. He was, however, intelligent enough to skip the meeting.

    But then, the story doesn’t stop here. It is not merely a tale of disaster, but also about a remarkable comeback that has been forgotten over the years. In less than two weeks after that humiliation on foreign land, the Indian team bounced back and jointly lifted the eight-nation Pesta Sukan invitation tournament in Singapore.

    In a tournament that had teams like Malaysia, Indonesia, South Korea and Thailand, the Indians reached the final after trouncing Malaysia 6-0 in the penultimate round and returned home with the joint-winners trophy after a goalless draw against Vietnam.


    East Bengal right winger Swapan Sengupta was a part of the team and played an important role in India’s triumph. Never again after this was he selected for India, but he still cherishes the moment of victory. Incidentally, it was India’s last international trophy in the true sense in the 20th century.

    “I was a new kid on the block, raring to go. But midway through the 1971 Merdeka, it turned out to be a nightmare. Several top players got injured. We had already lost the chance to qualify for the semi-finals, but the 9-1 defeat against Burma was too much,” recalled Sengupta.

    With news coming from India about the uproar the defeat had created, the team felt like a bunch of condemned men. There were even suggestions about skipping the Pesta Sukan meet and the two coaches, PK Banerjee and GMH Basha, almost agreed to it.

    Key forward Subash Bhowmick, who made a roaring start in Merdeka with a hat-trick against the Philippines but was injured after the second match, said some of the footballers vehemently opposed the idea of returning home.


    “We said the team must go for the Singapore tournament and do something to regain some of our lost prestige. Pradeep-da and Basha-da agreed, though reluctantly. We finally proved ourselves in Pesta Sukan,” he said.

    Riding on a high

    One must revisit the story from the start to know how things unfolded. In 1971, Indian football was on a high. The previous year, India had won the Asian Games bronze medal and finished third in Merdeka.

    So, there was hope. Barring a few newcomers like Arun Banerjee, Samson Gunapandian, Shyam Sunder Manna, K Balakrishna and Swapan Sengupta, the team for 1971 Merdeka was almost the same that played in the 1970 Asian Games, though some of the footballers were definitely past their prime.

    The start, however, was encouraging as Bhowmick struck thrice in a 5-1 win over the Philippines. Habib and Balakrishna were the other scorers.


    The slide started thereafter. Indonesia and Hong Kong defeated India 3-1 and 2-1, respectively; Singapore drew 2-2. Bhowmick limped out of the pitch against Singapore, Sudhir Karmakar, Amar Bahadur, Nataraj and Habib suffered injuries against Indonesia. India were finding it difficult to field a side of 11 players when it came to playing the last match against Burma. Finally, central defender Nayeemuddin had to play in the forward line to fill up the gaps.

    To make matters worse, it rained before the match. Defender Gunapandian, who only brought small-studded boots, found it extremely difficult to adjust to the ground condition.

    Four goals came before half time.

    Burma showed no mercy and scored five more in the second half.

    The prestige of Indian football lay in tatters in Kuala Lumpur.

    A forgotten triumph

    Having tasted that heavy defeat in Merdeka, India made a grand recovery in Singapore’s Jalan Besar Stadium. It was a creditable triumph in the sense that most of the top players were yet to recover fully from the injuries they suffered in Kuala Lumpur.


    In the opening match against Indonesia, India trailed by a goal till the 61st minute before Habib restored parity. The match went into the extra time and Habib struck again to steer his team out of the woods.

    India were at their best in the semi-final against Malaysia. They won 6-0, India’s biggest triumph over Malaysia till date. Bhowmick and Habib were in great form, having scored two goals each, while midfielder Nataraj and winger Sengupta got the other two.

    The final against South Vietnam on August 28 was marred by rough play but remained goalless even after extra time. Both teams agreed to share the trophy. India, in fact, had hardly any bench-strength to carry over the challenge to the next day. So much so that Nayeemuddin and midfielder Ajaib Singh had to play in the forward line.

    The tour, however, had its casualties. This was the last time Nayeemuddin and Prasad donned the Indian colours. The defeat against Burma effectively ended their careers with the national team. The two were India’s longest serving central defenders after Jarnail Singh and Arun Ghosh.


    Sadly, hardly anyone these days in Indian football talks about this memorable victory against all odds. A team, completely shattered in Malaysia, carrying too many injuries of top players and nearly denounced at home, made a near-impossible recovery to return with a trophy.

    It is unfortunate players like Gunapandian, Nirmal Sengupta, Shyam Sunder Manna, Swapan Sengupta or Ajaib Singh don’t even get a mention in the footnote of Indian football history.

    The team in the Pesta Sukan final:

    Kuppuswami Sampath, Sudhir Karmakar, Samson Gunapandian, Chandreshwar Prasad and Nirmal Sengupta; Shyam Sundar Manna and D Nataraj; Swapan Sengupta, Syed Nayeemuddin, Mohammed Habib and Ajaib Singh.

    https://scroll.in/field/970415/indian-football-s-forgotten-triumph-right-after-an-embarrassing-defeat-on-independence-day-1971
    samgiridharanPassiG_Ksouravindianamewtheldindian_goonerrathorevarun4
  • NagendraNagendra Rajahmundry, A.P6537 Points
    I just googled it. India & South Vietnam shared the Pesta Sukan Cup in 1971 as the match ended 0-0 even after ET.
    It is played in Singapore and played prior-to/after Merdeka Tournament. 

    Total 8 teams participated in 1971 (India , Indonesia , Malaysia , Singapore , Thailand , Philippines , South Vietnam & South Korea ). Malaysia & S.Korea fielded their B team. 
    samindian_gooner
  • samsam 16458 Points
    India jointly won the Pesta Sukan Cup 1971 after a 0-0 draw with South Vietnam in final. They also defeated Indonesia 3-1 & Malaysia 6-0. Mohammed Habib scored 4 goals in 3 matches. This was India's last triumph outside the subcontinent in 20th century. But the story was not so simple.
    Just a month before in the 1971 Merdeka Cup, one of the lowest points in Indian Football's history came when India lost 9-1 to Myanmar. India struggled to field a playing XI due to acute injury problems, losing 8 of their first 11 olayers. This defeat effectively ended international careers of Syeed Nayeemuddin and Chandreshwar Prasad. The Ministry of Education in Delhi (now HRD), took serious note of the drubbing and directed the All India Football Federation to immediately launch an enquiry.
    But then, the story doesn’t stop here. It is not merely a tale of disaster, but also about a remarkable comeback that has been forgotten over the years. In less than two weeks after that humiliation on foreign land, the Indian team bounced back and jointly lifted the eight-nation Pesta Sukan invitation tournament in Singapore.
    In a tournament that had teams like Malaysia, Indonesia, South Korea and Thailand, the Indians reached the final after trouncing Malaysia 6-0 in the penultimate round and returned home with the joint-winners trophy after a goalless draw against Vietnam. South Korea was the runner up who defeated Singapore 4-1 in the 3rd position game.
    TEAM:
    Goalkeepers: Arun Banerjee (East Bengal), Kuppuswami Sampath (MEG Bangalore).
    Defenders: Sudhir Karmakar (East Bengal), Syed Nayeemuddin (Mohameddan), Chandreshwar Prasad (Mohun Bagan - CAPTAIN), Nirmal Sengupta (Bengal), Samson Gunapandian (TN-RBI);
    Midfielders: Ranjit Thapa (Maharashtra St.), Shyam Sunder Manna (Bengal), Doraiswamy Natraj (HAL).
    Forwards: Shyam Thapa (East Bengal), Swapan Sengupta (East Bengal), Mohammed Habib (East Bengal), Subhas Bhowmick (Mohun Bagan), Amar Bahadur (Mafatlal Bombay), Balakrishna (Mysore).
    Coach: P.K. Banerjee.
    giridharanthebeautifulgamerathorevarun4
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