Oh come on. I am sticking to topic. I see from that statement that you only read the first paragraph of my argument. Read the rest and then come back to me.
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">So 10 years ago when the I-League players were still allowed to play in the Santosh Trophy and the league was still amateur and 6 years old with Bank and Police clubs and no Pune FC type clubs and no proper youth structure in the league is your argument currently.</font><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Bravo (sarcastic).</font></div>
Coming back to the 5th point, where I use J&K case study to show local and corporate interest...Even 10 years ago when Santosh Trophy was played in Manipur, LG was sponsor and crowd support was great too...Doesn't these kind of things generate interest?? as I said before the spot has to be chosen well...places with footballing potential and less touched by cricket<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">that was only because top players are still allowed in the tournament and was still having some glamour attached...</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><br></span></div><div>now no top players are part of it...so on what basis you think will fans be brought to the stadium in this tournament??</div>
Just look at Kashmir, AIFF president was amazed by the turnout...these are the things which later contributed to Kashmir's rise in football. Some players came into fray and now they have local league.<div style="font-weight: normal; "><br></div><div><h6 style="font-size: 20pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">I never expected such a turnout: Priyaranjan</h6><h4 style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 8pt; margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">GK NEWS NETWORK</h4><div class="detail-right-box" style="font-weight: normal; float: right; padding-left: 10px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><div id="gkfontholderP" style="padding-left: 195px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1px; "><div id="gkfontholder" style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(68, 68, 68); border-right-color: rgb(68, 68, 68); border-bottom-color: rgb(68, 68, 68); border-left-color: rgb(68, 68, 68); border-image: initial; width: 100px; height: 32px; "><a href="http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2008/Jun/16/i-never-expected-such-a-turnout-priyaranjan-2.asp"; class="smallFont" title="Smaller" style="color: rgb(17, 91, 203); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; background-image: url(http://www.greaterkashmir.com/images/font-down.png); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; text-indent: -9999px; display: block; float: left; width: 32px; height: 32px; ">Smaller</a><a href="http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2008/Jun/16/i-never-expected-such-a-turnout-priyaranjan-2.asp"; class="defaultFont" title="Default" style="color: rgb(17, 91, 203); background-image: url(http://www.greaterkashmir.com/images/font-default.png); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; text-indent: -9999px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; display: block; float: left; width: 32px; height: 32px; ">Default</a><a href="http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2008/Jun/16/i-never-expected-such-a-turnout-priyaranjan-2.asp"; class="largeFont" title="Larger" style="color: rgb(17, 91, 203); background-image: url(http://www.greaterkashmir.com/images/font-up.png); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; text-indent: -9999px; display: block; float: left; width: 32px; height: 32px; ">Larger</a></div></div><a href="http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2008/Jun/16/images/news_16_6_2008_3.jpg"; rel="news1" title="I never expected such a turnout: Priyaranjan" class="cboxElement" style="color: rgb(17, 91, 203); "><img src="http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2008/Jun/16/images/news_16_6_2008_3.jpg"; border="0" width="250"></a></div><div align="justify" id="textcontent" class="Storypage" style="font-size: 14px; color: rgb(18, 18, 18); font-family: Arial, 'Times New Roman', Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; min-height: 500px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><p>Srinagar: Amazed by the turnout of the spectators during the final match of Santosh Trophy, Union Information and Broadcasting Minister and All India Football Federation president Priyaranjan Das Munshi said that he had never expected such a huge turnout.<br> “I was not expecting such a huge crowd in absence of host team. I’m sure that people of the valley football crazy. By coming in such a large number, they have made statement that they want more such events being organized here. football is such a game that whoever sees it, loves it,” Priyaranjan told reporters at the prize distribution ceremony.<br> “When proposal for organizing Santosh Trophy was forwarded before AIFF, lot of people made apprehensions. But now everything has changed and in coming days more events would be held in the valley,” he added.<br> Congratulating JK team for reaching quarterfinal stage and making name for the state he said, “It was great to see host team reaching into quarterfinal stage after 22 years and with this whole scenario of football in the valley will change. <b>Seeing the interest of people of valley in football AIFF will make special project for the development of football here also try to establish a football academy here”.</b></p><p style="font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2008/Jun/16/i-never-expected-such-a-turnout-priyaranjan-2.asp">http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2008/Jun/16/i-never-expected-such-a-turnout-priyaranjan-2.asp</a>;
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<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">So 10 years ago when the I-League players were still allowed to play in the Santosh Trophy and the league was still amateur and 6 years old with Bank and Police clubs and no Pune FC type clubs and no proper youth structure in the league is your argument currently.</font><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Bravo (sarcastic).</font></div>
<br><div><br></div><div>I just enhanced the J&K case study..never made it a point of its own...</div>
Coming back to the 5th point, where I use J&K case study to show local and corporate interest...Even 10 years ago when Santosh Trophy was played in Manipur, LG was sponsor and crowd support was great too...Doesn't these kind of things generate interest?? as I said before the spot has to be chosen well...places with footballing potential and less touched by cricket<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">that was only because top players are still allowed in the tournament and was still having some glamour attached...</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><br></span></div><div>now no top players are part of it...so on what basis you think will fans be brought to the stadium in this tournament??</div>
<br><div><br></div><div>True, but is it well documented that people came to stadium to see the stars!!! How many Indian stars are there in football?</div>
Just look at Kashmir, AIFF president was amazed by the turnout...these are the things which later contributed to Kashmir's rise in football. 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I’m sure that people of the valley football crazy. By coming in such a large number, they have made statement that they want more such events being organized here. football is such a game that whoever sees it, loves it,” Priyaranjan told reporters at the prize distribution ceremony.<br> “When proposal for organizing Santosh Trophy was forwarded before AIFF, lot of people made apprehensions. But now everything has changed and in coming days more events would be held in the valley,” he added.<br> Congratulating JK team for reaching quarterfinal stage and making name for the state he said, “It was great to see host team reaching into quarterfinal stage after 22 years and with this whole scenario of football in the valley will change. <b>Seeing the interest of people of valley in football AIFF will make special project for the development of football here also try to establish a football academy here”.</b></p><p style="font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2008/Jun/16/i-never-expected-such-a-turnout-priyaranjan-2.asp">http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2008/Jun/16/i-never-expected-such-a-turnout-priyaranjan-2.asp</a>;
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<br><div><br></div><div>cant we get to know the fan support of this area by keeping a age-group tournament may be u-23 over here???</div><div>and even in that time also i-league players were allowed if i am not wrong</div><div><br></div><div>or some i-league teams friendlies that would be good too </div><div>and as far as talent hunt goes....all thos i-league teams going there could scout for talent if they are interested cant they???</div>
Against the motion : Santosh trophy has been a relieve for poor guys for unpopular states like HP, Jharkand, and some NE states too, where people are still fighting hard for having a set lyf. Football is a bread and butter for players from these states, this trophy gives an opportunity for showcasing their talent. Many of the players are not full time professionals but would like to become one if given the chance. Many time these players are not aware of the trials happening so they are not selected by clubs. Also this give chance for them to get in touch with other players and networking. Also, as rudra said they get jobs into PSU's too based on this.<div><br></div><div>Coming to the point of pulling it backwards. It is not, 1 crore is not much amount if AIFF can get sponsors, but it is AIFF's inability to get sponsors. Coming as rudra mentioned if AIFF chooses the location then they can get sponsors and organise this tournament with ease.</div>
<br><div><br></div><div>or some i-league teams friendlies that would be good too </div><div>and as far as talent hunt goes....all thos i-league teams going there could scout for talent if they are interested cant they???</div>
<br><div><br></div><div>Many things can be done...but its not done...we have to live with reality for the time being...as for the debate we have to consider everything as it is...we cant say - change this and that and then we dont need such trophies</div>
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<br><div><br></div><div>I just enhanced the J&K case study..never made it a point of its own...</div>
<br><div><br></div><div>True, but is it well documented that people came to stadium to see the stars!!! How many Indian stars are there in football?</div>
<br><div><br></div><div>cant we get to know the fan support of this area by keeping a age-group tournament may be u-23 over here???</div><div>and even in that time also i-league players were allowed if i am not wrong</div><div><br></div><div>or some i-league teams friendlies that would be good too </div><div>and as far as talent hunt goes....all thos i-league teams going there could scout for talent if they are interested cant they???</div>
<br><div><br></div><div>Many things can be done...but its not done...we have to live with reality for the time being...as for the debate we have to consider everything as it is...we cant say - change this and that and then we dont need such trophies</div>