<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Why can I sense a frustrating day coming.</font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Dont worry, I will actually get sources this time as to how pro/rel can not work in India. </font></div>
<br><div><br></div><div>i seriously feel now that this debate should be post to next week so that i would be free of exams and could get some datas for my team...</div><div>anyway if i dont get stats then will make sure the opposite teams stats are weakened by my way of contradicting them :P </div>
<span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">I am not much aware about what is the effect of promotion/relegation or the lack of it
around the world. But I would put forward my thoughts on why this cannot work in India </span><b><i>given the current scenario.</i></b><div><b><i><br></i></b></div><div><b>1. Very few I-league teams are professional. </b>This means that the clubs are not competent enough anyway. If we assure them of a place year after year, they will turn more incompetent. No motivation whatsoever remains for the weaker teams.</div><div><br></div><div><b>2. How will you give chances to new clubs? </b>In this case I am assuming we have 14-16 teams and no further expansion is possible/plausible. This would mean that there is no way a new team with fresh ideas and bigger targets can join the big league</div><div><br></div><div><b>3. What about the smaller teams? </b>This would mean that the 2nd Division I-League is abolished. A lot of clubs may pack up if they see no opportunity. The cannot sustain a team by playing local leagues.</div><div><br></div><div><b>4. Corruption </b>Weaker teams are assured of a place anyway. So they will act as the title deciders by favouring one or the other leading teams. I can clearly see rampant corruption.</div><div><br></div>
<span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">I am not much aware about what is the effect of promotion/relegation or the lack of it
around the world. But I would put forward my thoughts on why this cannot work in India </span><b><i>given the current scenario.</i></b><div><b><i><br></i></b></div><div><b>1. Very few I-league teams are professional. </b>This means that the clubs are not competent enough anyway. If we assure them of a place year after year, they will turn more incompetent. No motivation whatsoever remains for the weaker teams.</div><div><br></div><div><b>2. How will you give chances to new clubs? </b>In this case I am assuming we have 14-16 teams and no further expansion is possible/plausible. This would mean that there is no way a new team with fresh ideas and bigger targets can join the big league</div><div><br></div><div><b>3. What about the smaller teams? </b>This would mean that the 2nd Division I-League is abolished. A lot of clubs may pack up if they see no opportunity. The cannot sustain a team by playing local leagues.</div><div><br></div><div><b>4. Corruption </b>Weaker teams are assured of a place anyway. So they will act as the title deciders by favouring one or the other leading teams. I can clearly see rampant corruption.</div><div><br></div>
<br><div><br></div><div>I rather not begin the discussion now but...</div><div><br></div><div>1) I can handle that one with ease.</div><div><br></div><div>2) Go learn about the modern day finance of football clubs. Easy.</div><div><br></div><div>3) Again look at #2. Making this to easy.</div><div><br></div><div>4) Corruption exists everywhere in the football world. It is in EPL, MLS, J.League, FIFA. Not just India. That will never go away.</div>
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<span style="font-family: Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">modern day finance of football clubs</span> "</i><div>Are you kidding me? That is why I highlighted 'in the current scenario'. I knew you would migrate into imaginary situations in no time.</div>
My suggestion to the people who for some reason would rather have pro/rel (even though it is financial suicide) is to go look for sources to back your claims and by sources I mean sources that say how pro/rel is great financially and all that because I just did that search and the only thing I got is...<div><br></div><div>"The rest of the world does it"<br></div><div><br></div><div>That just is not good enough. You guys got one week. The clock is ticking...</div><div><img src="http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/07/27/PA.jpg"></div>;
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<span style="font-family: Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">modern day finance of football clubs</span> "</i><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; ">Are you kidding me? That is why I highlighted 'in the current scenario'. I knew you would migrate into imaginary situations in no time.</div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">
I want to read the debate rather than participate, as I dont have strong opinion about it. I like both the models....I am bit inclined on continuing rel-pro system, but I won't be very unhappy if its stopped. So, want to join the audience. However, in case we dont have people turning up for the debate, I can put forward arguments for why pro-rel might have some advantages (although I hope I wont be required)...
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<br><div><br></div><div>i seriously feel now that this debate should be post to next week so that i would be free of exams and could get some datas for my team...</div><div>anyway if i dont get stats then will make sure the opposite teams stats are weakened by my way of contradicting them :P
around the world. But I would put forward my thoughts on why this cannot work in India </span><b><i>given the current scenario.</i></b><div><b><i><br></i></b></div><div><b>1. Very few I-league teams are professional. </b>This means that the clubs are not competent enough anyway. If we assure them of a place year after year, they will turn more incompetent. No motivation whatsoever remains for the weaker teams.</div><div><br></div><div><b>2. How will you give chances to new clubs? </b>In this case I am assuming we have 14-16 teams and no further expansion is possible/plausible. This would mean that there is no way a new team with fresh ideas and bigger targets can join the big league</div><div><br></div><div><b>3. What about the smaller teams? </b>This would mean that the 2nd Division I-League is abolished. A lot of clubs may pack up if they see no opportunity. The cannot sustain a team by playing local leagues.</div><div><br></div><div><b>4. Corruption </b>Weaker teams are assured of a place anyway. So they will act as the title deciders by favouring one or the other leading teams. I can clearly see rampant corruption.</div><div><br></div>
<br><div><br></div><div>I rather not begin the discussion now but...</div><div><br></div><div>1) I can handle that one with ease.</div><div><br></div><div>2) Go learn about the modern day finance of football clubs. Easy.</div><div><br></div><div>3) Again look at #2. Making this to easy.</div><div><br></div><div>4) Corruption exists everywhere in the football world. It is in EPL, MLS, J.League, FIFA. Not just India. That will never go away.</div>
<span style="font-family: Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">modern day finance of football clubs</span> "</i><div>Are you kidding me? That is why I highlighted 'in the current scenario'. I knew you would migrate into imaginary situations in no time.</div>
<br><div>i hope not....</div><div><br></div> [-O<
</font><br><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Do you really think I am that stupid. Do you think all the things or some the thing I say are fairy tale? No, they are all fact. Mate, I have studied the landscape of India, I have studied the success of IPL and recently the WSH. I have studied the I-League/NFL. I have studied the state leagues. I have studied the Premier League, MLS, J.League, K-League, A-League, S.League, Thai Premier League, Brazilian Serie A, Italy Serie A, Bundesliga in Germany and Austria. I have studied numerous second tier leagues. I have studied the positives and negatives of promotion/relegation and I have studied the expansion idea.</font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Remember when I joined in October. For my first 4 months on here I was a supporter of keeping promotion/relegation. My idea's always involved a second tier and sometimes a 3rd.</font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">There is a reason why I switched from being a supporter of promotion/relegation in India to a huge opposition AGAINST it.</font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Anyway, I will help your weak case... (Have fun researching)</font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">https://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=13&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Why+is+promotion/relegation+good?</font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">https://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=13&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Why+is+promotion/relegation+good?#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Why+is+promotion/relegation+good+financially?&oq=Why+is+promotion/relegation+good+financially?&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...374517.378496.0.378743.18.17.1.0.0.0.152.1149.15j2.17.0...0.0.TF4Ze44uwro&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=12530d2c4dce780a&biw=1195&bih=611</font></div>