This is why (since you will blindly choose to ignore all examples which contradict your logic).
Suppose Pune FC has been playing well in I-League for some seasons, but then industrialist X suddenly develops a passion for football and decides to set up a club in city Y all of a sudden. He pours in some money for couple of seasons. And suddenly they are a club which can be made part of "expansion". So they come into the league in expense of Pune FC (unless you want new teams to be added without excluding old ones), who have been making some effort in Indian football for a few seasons. A couple of years later X suddenly loses all interest in football (see Fransa Pax, Mahindra) and decides to close the club. So do we suddenly go back to pune fc to get them back into I-League? In a country like India where football is still developing (Japan incidentally started going full throttle from late 80s, and by 90s they had a concrete target of hosting a WC, so they worked hard for developing a culture) you cannot expand based on infrastructure because audits are rarely transparent.
If you remove relegation you will have teams like Arrows every season, who have no motivation to play at all.
If you really want to spread Indian football in different regions then have regional qualifers for div-2. That way one team from NE and one from Kerala can be guaranteed into I-league. Since they obviously can't perform the same way with teams from Goa and Kolkata.
I dont know why but...
1) I dont understand your first reason. It seems like you are saying that for example if ONGC become Delhi Oilers FC and move into I-League that the work Pune FC have done would be nothing and that they would leave the league? Okay.......
2) I am not saying keep expansion forever and never have promotion/relegation (facepalm) I am saying until we get a stable 1st Division which has 16-18 clubs have expansion. Once the league is at 18 clubs, is financially stable, and is almost spread out then you can add a 2nd Division like what South Korea is trying to do now. That is what I am trying to say. I am sorry if I may have forgot to say that or if you did not understand that. Right now promotion/relegation is not helping Indian football. It has not helped for 16 years! Stop it now. Revamp the league. Get down to 10 clubs. Expand to 8 more clubs and then start a 2nd Division.
Right now finances are shit. We all know that. Look at MB and EB. UB Group might back down! We need salary caps and expansion to improve the league and Indian football.
If a big investor does come into I-League and pours money with some sense, do you seriously think that club will get relegated?
Pune FC is a big example in this. To an extent Prayag United as well...JCT stopped investing money in first team when they got relegated. Mahindra never came close to going down once the owners started investing properly.
Why would they risk that and 2nd Division is unstable its like some shit Cup like tournament unlike what it is in nations you have mentioned earlier.
I don't see any benefit with ONGC qualifying for I-League,I would say yes to Mohd Sporting.
East Bengal, Mohun Bagan, Prayag United, Dempo, Salgaocar, Churchill Brothers, Sporting Clube, Lajong, Pune FC, Mumbai FC.
Expansion? Stability?
Or do you want to curtail clubs just because they have commited the crime of coming from a city which has more than one club? Finances and infrastruture be damned.
If a big investor does come into I-League and pours money with some sense, do you seriously think that club will get relegated?
Pune FC is a big example in this. To an extent Prayag United as well...JCT stopped investing money in first team when they got relegated. Mahindra never came close to going down once the owners started investing properly.
Why would they risk that and 2nd Division is unstable its like some shit Cup like tournament unlike what it is in nations you have mentioned earlier.
I don't see any benefit with ONGC qualifying for I-League,I would say yes to Mohd Sporting.
Even I don't like the fact that ONGC is qualifying, though I will appreciate their performance. But Indian football clubs are still not financially stable to provide livelihood to players. If you completely stop office teams you will also stop a lot of players from taking up the game.
I really, really don't see a club getting relegated if they properly invest their money and have a stable coaching staff. The question of investing in 2nd division will come if they get relegated.
East Bengal, Mohun Bagan, Prayag United, Dempo, Salgaocar, Churchill Brothers, Sporting Clube, Lajong, Pune FC, Mumbai FC.
Expansion? Stability?
Or do you want to curtail clubs just because they have commited the crime of coming from a city which has more than one club? Finances and infrastruture be damned.
Well actually...
East Bengal, Mohun Bagan, Pune FC, Mumbai FC, Shillong Lajong FC, United Sikkim FC, Royal Wahingdoh FC, Sporting Clube de Goa, Dempo SC.
Done.
Also how has the promotion/relegation helped Indian football over the last 16 years? Yes with expansion you will see some investors come in who dont care after a while (example: Gold Coast United in A-League) but eventually as the league gets smarter we will get better owners who are committed to the league and with a good formula to help a club if financially off.
Oh and btw... Air India FC, company owned club, players might work there, dont get payed, bet they dont get free housing either. Also clubs should only provide housing for a player for 1 season. After 1 season that player should be able to get there own house, the only thing the club could do is help that player find there own place.
If a big investor does come into I-League and pours money with some sense, do you seriously think that club will get relegated?
Pune FC is a big example in this. To an extent Prayag United as well...JCT stopped investing money in first team when they got relegated. Mahindra never came close to going down once the owners started investing properly.
Why would they risk that and 2nd Division is unstable its like some shit Cup like tournament unlike what it is in nations you have mentioned earlier.
I don't see any benefit with ONGC qualifying for I-League,I would say yes to Mohd Sporting.
Even I don't like the fact that ONGC is qualifying, though I will appreciate their performance. But Indian football clubs are still not financially stable to provide livelihood to players. If you completely stop office teams you will also stop a lot of players from taking up the game.
I really, really don't see a club getting relegated if they properly invest their money and have a stable coaching staff. The question of investing in 2nd division will come if they get relegated.
Let those players stop playing football,we need only professionals not Semi-Pros let them play for Office teams in n number of cup tournaments which we have in India.
Only Professional teams should be allowed into Football League system,If ONGC or Tire Making company wants to enter League then they will have to qualify the strict criteria and be 100% professional cause this is not 19th century.
Thank you for your service Office clubs but its high time you meet the professional criteria or just be away from League.
Ya he did, in the 89th minute. United Sikkim now on top of the table only behind ONGC on GD, All we need now is a draw against Mohammedan and we are up!!!!
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I dont know why but...
1) I dont understand your first reason. It seems like you are saying that for example if ONGC become Delhi Oilers FC and move into I-League that the work Pune FC have done would be nothing and that they would leave the league? Okay.......
2) I am not saying keep expansion forever and never have promotion/relegation (facepalm) I am saying until we get a stable 1st Division which has 16-18 clubs have expansion. Once the league is at 18 clubs, is financially stable, and is almost spread out then you can add a 2nd Division like what South Korea is trying to do now. That is what I am trying to say. I am sorry if I may have forgot to say that or if you did not understand that. Right now promotion/relegation is not helping Indian football. It has not helped for 16 years! Stop it now. Revamp the league. Get down to 10 clubs. Expand to 8 more clubs and then start a 2nd Division.
Right now finances are shit. We all know that. Look at MB and EB. UB Group might back down! We need salary caps and expansion to improve the league and Indian football.
Why would they risk that and 2nd Division is unstable its like some shit Cup like tournament unlike what it is in nations you have mentioned earlier.
I don't see any benefit with ONGC qualifying for I-League,I would say yes to Mohd Sporting.
East Bengal, Mohun Bagan, Prayag United, Dempo, Salgaocar, Churchill Brothers, Sporting Clube, Lajong, Pune FC, Mumbai FC.
Expansion? Stability?
Or do you want to curtail clubs just because they have commited the crime of coming from a city which has more than one club? Finances and infrastruture be damned.
Even I don't like the fact that ONGC is qualifying, though I will appreciate their performance. But Indian football clubs are still not financially stable to provide livelihood to players. If you completely stop office teams you will also stop a lot of players from taking up the game.
I really, really don't see a club getting relegated if they properly invest their money and have a stable coaching staff. The question of investing in 2nd division will come if they get relegated.
Well actually...
East Bengal, Mohun Bagan, Pune FC, Mumbai FC, Shillong Lajong FC, United Sikkim FC, Royal Wahingdoh FC, Sporting Clube de Goa, Dempo SC.
Done.
Also how has the promotion/relegation helped Indian football over the last 16 years? Yes with expansion you will see some investors come in who dont care after a while (example: Gold Coast United in A-League) but eventually as the league gets smarter we will get better owners who are committed to the league and with a good formula to help a club if financially off.
Oh and btw... Air India FC, company owned club, players might work there, dont get payed, bet they dont get free housing either. Also clubs should only provide housing for a player for 1 season. After 1 season that player should be able to get there own house, the only thing the club could do is help that player find there own place.
Let those players stop playing football,we need only professionals not Semi-Pros let them play for Office teams in n number of cup tournaments which we have in India.
Only Professional teams should be allowed into Football League system,If ONGC or Tire Making company wants to enter League then they will have to qualify the strict criteria and be 100% professional cause this is not 19th century.
Thank you for your service Office clubs but its high time you meet the professional criteria or just be away from League.
Ya he did, in the 89th minute. United Sikkim now on top of the table only behind ONGC on GD, All we need now is a draw against Mohammedan and we are up!!!!
http://isikkim.com/2012-04-nigerian-midfielder-andrew-igado-united-sikkim-has-potential-13-02/