Suggestions for Indian Football

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  • usaindiausaindia 1671 Points
    BTW This is not 100% what my proposed plan is. There are faults that I will address and there are financial things as well. <div><br></div><div>I posted this at 4:45 in the morning over here so my head was not in the right place. More later on this plan...</div>

    <br><div>send a PPT to AIFF and IMG</div><div>Get some money for your work</div>
  • shankarshankar 2600 Points
    BTW This is not 100% what my proposed plan is. There are faults that I will address and there are financial things as well. <div><br></div><div>I posted this at 4:45 in the morning over here so my head was not in the right place. More later on this plan...</div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>May i ask you why you always propose your plan at that time when your head is not in right place??? :P</div>
  • shankar wrote: »
    BTW This is not 100% what my proposed plan is. There are faults that I will address and there are financial things as well. <div><br></div><div>I posted this at 4:45 in the morning over here so my head was not in the right place. More later on this plan...</div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>May i ask you why you always propose your plan at that time when your head is not in right place??? :P</div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>It was 4:45 in the morning and I am studying for Finals next week so that was the only time. </div><div><br></div><div>I am taking a break today so will do a full plan today.</div>
  • ajmalajmal 1208 Points
    <h3 class="post-title entry-title" style="margin: 0.75em 0px 0px; position: relative; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Pailan Arrows: I-League home matches across India?</h3><div><br></div><div>by Arunava Chaudhuri</div><div class="post-header" style="line-height: 12px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-size: 9px; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><div class="post-header-line-1"></div></div><div class="post-body entry-content" id="post-body-1635689258045123503" style="width: 604px; font-size: 12px; line-height: 12px; position: relative; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><div dir="ltr" trbidi="on" style="text-align: left; "><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vTuVRFmileU/T-YjvUFHhiI/AAAAAAAABac/hcJW_mfnKpE/s1600/Pailan_Arrows.png"; imageanchor="1" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(255, 153, 0); clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; "><img border="0" height="104" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vTuVRFmileU/T-YjvUFHhiI/AAAAAAAABac/hcJW_mfnKpE/s200/Pailan_Arrows.png"; width="146" style="border: 1px solid transparent; position: relative; padding: 1px; background-color: transparent; -webkit-box-shadow: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.0976563) 1px 1px 5px; box-shadow: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.0976563) 1px 1px 5px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "></a>I have been thinking about an idea for weeks, now I wanted to pen it down and maybe it is something for the All India Football Federation to consider which could help to spread awareness about Indian football, its future talent and the I-League.<br><br>The Pailan Arrows, the AIFF's Developmental Team, shifted their base last season from the National Capital Region to Kolkata after a sponsor was finally found in the Pailan Group and with the Pailan Group having suitable facilities for training and accommodation the whole set-up is now based in Joka, on the South West fringes of Kolkata.<br><br>With the shift to Kolkata the Pailan Arrows now play their home matches at the giant Saltlake Stadium, but mostly infront of empty stands with crowds only coming for their matches against Kolkata giants East Bengal and Mohun Bagan. Even Kolkata clubs like Tollygunge Agragami in the old NFL and currently Prayag United in the I-League face this problem due to the Kolkata fans being attached to the big three - East Bengal, Mohun Bagan and Mohammedan Sporting.<br><br>Even the Pailan Arrows, the future talent of Indian football is a hard sell in a football crazy city like Kolkata. But don't these boys, who we hope will go on to represent the senior Indian national team one day deserve better?<br><br>Maybe the AIFF needs to think out of the box on this issue. It is about exposure and experience for the Arrows and maybe they should play their home matches across India in football centres where there is no I-League action or cities which have the necessary stadiums. This way the team could also spread awareness about the I-League.<br><br>Maybe some people are reading this idea...</div><div dir="ltr" trbidi="on" style="text-align: left; "><br></div><div dir="ltr" trbidi="on" style="text-align: left; "><a href="http://arunfoot.blogspot.in/2012/06/pailan-arrows-i-league-home-matches.html">http://arunfoot.blogspot.in/2012/06/pailan-arrows-i-league-home-matches.html</a>;
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    </div><div dir="ltr" trbidi="on" style="text-align: left; "><br></div><div dir="ltr" trbidi="on" style="text-align: left; ">good idea...IMO we dont make use of the arrows project fully...but the main problem is pailan group wont agree.. </div><div dir="ltr" trbidi="on" style="text-align: left; "><br></div></div>
  • rudrarudra 2958 Points
    It will disstabilise the team, effectively all matches will be away match...a few matches is not a bad thing though...for the record, last yr the teams who played mostly away from training base did badly, stayed in lower half 
  • ajmalajmal 1208 Points
    ya right..will destabilize the team, more journey will affect players' health.....but few matches can make great difference
  • <font size="2" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; ">Honestly this is probably the worse of idea's. Rudra is 100% right.</font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; "><br></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, Verdana">Yes put the team in </font><font face="Arial Black">one city</font><font face="Arial, Verdana"> </font><font face="Arial">but dont treat the team like a circus where we just rotate from time to time. And how would rotating bring more fans. The only cities we could go to are Kozhikozide, Bangalore, Delhi and Nagpur but that is it. Also how can we build a fan base if we only have like 2 home games a season at a stadium. Remember that Pailan will have 13 home games only... how will you distribute it through 4 cities!?</font></font></div>
  • cleatbeatcleatbeat 0 Points
    I think what needs to happen here is people need to be made aware of what actually Indian football is, because I don't think people on this forum are really aware of what is going on in the real world.<div><br></div><div>1. Firstly, Youth Football isn't Under-15 or Under-18 league or competition based football - It starts from 4 years, and goes up to 16.</div><div><br></div><div>2. Youth Football is not about competition. The idea is to generate interest in the game and NOT bring about a competition format. Why? Because when it comes down to competition, people start looking at "winning" rather than "development". The moment "winning" becomes part of training children, you end up creating third-rate players like you see in the I-League everyday. To create TECHNICALLY SOUND and TACTICALLY AWARE players, you need to make sure that children ENJOY the game and have FUN playing it.</div><div><br></div><div>3. Whoever thinks that youth football begins at the club level doesn't know how football works. The first and most important aspect of youth football is "street football". This includes those pick-up games that we played in the evenings, with friends. This DOES NOT include any academy structure because academies train you for 1 hour, three times a week. Lionel Messi didn't train for 1 hour, three times a week - if a child doesn't enjoy the game, he will not put in those hours required to become technically sound and tactically aware!</div><div><br></div><div>4. The problem is that there aren't enough children playing football in this country. We, at Cleat Beat, are changing that by giving out free footballs to children from second and third tier towns as well as in villages.</div><div><br></div><div>5. The second major problem in youth football is that coaches aren't trained. Any coach, who until the Under-16 level, trains a team to win, SHOULD BE FIRED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. There are too many coaches and academies where people do not know how to coach, but are training kids. They need to be trained and we, at Cleat Beat, are training coaches for free, in local communities, to make them understand what needs to be done in the right way.</div><div><br></div><div>6. Airtel, Manchester United Soccer Schools, Barcelona Schools - all are useless marketing gimmicks that will never create ONE good player. Why? Because the fee to get into these schools is higher than the monthly salary of most Indians. We need numbers to play the game, not a handful of children who can buy Adidas Predators and pay 15k a month for academies.</div><div><br></div><div>7. A lot of people on this forum are discussing the I-League, the Pailan Arrows and so on. However, what they don't realise is that the foundation, (which is 4 to 16-year olds) in this country is flawed.</div><div><br></div><div>In 2010, we had launched our magazine and some guy named "Somesh" made fun of the name - Cleat Beat. Well, Cleats are the shoes we wear when we play football and Beat refers to the field of journalism.</div><div><br></div><div>Then another said that we wrote about "European Football". We don't write on European Football, we write on GOOD FOOTBALL PRACTICES. That, in no uncertain terms, means that we don't care what happens in Indian football at the moment because it is useless and not worth writing about. There are only two things we care about - First, what is the best known way of playing football and, second, how to instill those habits into Indian children.</div><div><br></div><div>We at Cleatbeat.com are giving away free training exercises every single day. We run a magazine that talks about the best practices in football coaching, management and playing at all levels of the game. We do not advertise on our website, or charge money for anything that we offer from our site.</div><div><br></div><div>What we want to know is why are there so many people who are willing to TALK about Indian football and not ONE of them volunteers to DO anything about it?</div>
  • namewtheldnamewtheld Kolkata5665 Points
    Yes I did make fun of you. Who you were and what you were doing with your website was not known to me. What I knew that you were being spammy on this forum. And people hate spammers over here. Again you are making the same mistake.<div><br></div><div>There are people who do things and advertise it while there are people who do it silently bcoz they want to do it. What you are doing with cleatbeat. I do not know how much are people using it but your intention is great.</div><div><br></div><div>Please understand what @sparta said. Each one has its own purpose and the way of doing it. We do show advertisements on IFN which is needed for us to survive. There are many members on this forum who are thankful to us for creating this platform. If you have heard about Pratik Shinde, the young kid from Andheri, it is because of IFN.</div><div><br></div><div>I cant give you many examples but that is not the purpose. If you cannot bear the members discussing on this forum, you are welcome to ignore it.</div><div><br></div><div>And please do not assume that the members here are illiterate about youth football and whatever. The collective knowledge on this forum is much much more than any website or book can match. Please be careful before criticizing any member's contribution on this forum. We are very personal about it.</div>
  • cleatbeatcleatbeat 0 Points
    Somesh, you are personal about comments made against you and other members but we shouldn't be?<div><br></div><div>We aren't advertising what we do, just expecting people to do much more than talk. That's our frustration you see up there, about people who talk and do nothing... expecting someone else to do it.</div>
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