The Great Indian Football Debates

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  • rudrarudra 2958 Points
    rudra wrote:
    arsenalfan wrote:
    <font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">And again, BOO HOO! That is the state federations responsibility. Does the national federation need to cater to everyone! </font><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Does the English FA cater to all the county tournaments.</font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Does the US Soccer Federation cater to all the states.</font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Again this is just people calling for AIFF to do everything. The Goa Football Federation have taken action and have given there players a chance in the GPL. Nagaland is doing the same thing. Same for Sikkim and the state Shillong is in (I know what it is, to lazy to find spelling).</font></div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>Instead, why dont u put ur points how santosh trophy is putting Indian football backwards...</div><div>Sarcasm is fine, but that doesnt always puts the perspective in right place..why dont u lead and say here are the 5 points why santosh is killing indian football, that will be a big step for humanity</div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>Well, I will be back when the above post is addressed...other wise its the same again and again</div>
  • shankarshankar 2600 Points
    <br><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal; ">
    </div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">in that case if we have a u-23 trophy in the place of santosh trophy we will at least have a tournament which shall provide the clubs some young talents which could help increase of pool of players
    </span></div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br></span></div><div><span style="text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><font face="Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height: 18px;">in this point i am stating the reason why i want this trophy to be stopped for now...as we can get better young prospect from having a u-23 tournament than having a senior tournament for amateurs </span></font></span></div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 18px;">at least we will get best talents at younger age who could be further trained to future stars</span></font></div><br><div>...........</div><div>is this convincing @rudra for why we want this trophy could be replaced by a u-23 and what way could it help??</div>
  • reddevil87reddevil87 1858 Points
    @shankar what about the second breed of players?? Where will they play??
  • shankarshankar 2600 Points
    reddevil87 wrote:
    @shankar what about the second breed of players?? Where will they play??

    <br><div><br></div><div>If you cant establish yourself till 23 in football, then what is the use of staying in the sport???</div><div>you are not gonna earn crores in those 6-8 years left ...</div><div>it is always better to look for better career option then</div>
  • rudrarudra 2958 Points
    shankar wrote:
    <br><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal; ">
    </div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">in that case if we have a u-23 trophy in the place of santosh trophy we will at least have a tournament which shall provide the clubs some young talents which could help increase of pool of players
    </span></div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br></span></div><div><span style="text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><font face="Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height: 18px;">in this point i am stating the reason why i want this trophy to be stopped for now...as we can get better young prospect from having a u-23 tournament than having a senior tournament for amateurs </span></font></span></div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 18px;">at least we will get best talents at younger age who could be further trained to future stars</span></font></div><br><div>...........</div><div>is this convincing @rudra for why we want this trophy could be replaced by a u-23 and what way could it help??</div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>U23 Santosh trophy is a good idea but looks very unrealistic in the present scenario, where age verification is highly shady scenario....and the states to win will forge more certificates....it in any case still keep the trophy in the fray</div>
  • Maybe.<div><br></div><div>Anyway a lot has happened sense 4 years ago and that was history, which is seems no soul in India can forget, if so then people would have listened to Bob instead of getting rid of him for "supposedly" being racist. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
  • reddevil87reddevil87 1858 Points
    <font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">@Admin, this thread is getting bigger and bigger with more topics coming in subsequent week for debates, it would be better idea to have a separate thread for each topic each debate than putting all together at one place.  </font>
  • shankarshankar 2600 Points
    rudra wrote:
    shankar wrote:
    <br><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal; ">
    </div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">in that case if we have a u-23 trophy in the place of santosh trophy we will at least have a tournament which shall provide the clubs some young talents which could help increase of pool of players
    </span></div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br></span></div><div><span style="text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><font face="Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height: 18px;">in this point i am stating the reason why i want this trophy to be stopped for now...as we can get better young prospect from having a u-23 tournament than having a senior tournament for amateurs </span></font></span></div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva, 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 18px;">at least we will get best talents at younger age who could be further trained to future stars</span></font></div><br><div>...........</div><div>is this convincing @rudra for why we want this trophy could be replaced by a u-23 and what way could it help??</div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>U23 Santosh trophy is a good idea but looks very unrealistic in the present scenario, where age verification is highly shady scenario....and the states to win will forge more certificates....it in any case still keep the trophy in the fray</div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>if this tournament was a age group tournament no one was against it....</div><div>it is just because it is a senior tournament we were not interested in it to be kept in calender </div><div><br></div><div>and for age certificates... we cant do much with it</div>
  • rudrarudra 2958 Points
    shankar wrote:
    reddevil87 wrote:
    @shankar what about the second breed of players?? Where will they play??

    <br><div><br></div><div>If you cant establish yourself till 23 in football, then what is the use of staying in the sport???</div><div>you are not gonna earn crores in those 6-8 years left ...</div><div>it is always better to look for better career option then</div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>are u saying a footballer who gave up most career option by 23 will then look for something else!!!! OMG!!! maybe he can be a labourer or something like that...so that when later someone covers a story - "Rajasthan's ex u19 captain seen carrying bricks" we can all curse the authorities!</div>
  • reddevil87reddevil87 1858 Points
    shankar wrote:
    reddevil87 wrote:
    @shankar what about the second breed of players?? Where will they play??

    <br><div><br></div><div>If you cant establish yourself till 23 in football, then what is the use of staying in the sport???</div><div>you are not gonna earn crores in those 6-8 years left ...</div><div>it is always better to look for better career option then</div>

    <br><div><br></div><div>After 23!!! It is too late to start over once again. Considering, yourself if dont get a job after 23, will you change your study area and take new stream altogether?? How can you consider the players to do so??</div>
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